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3D orientation in Galaxy map and SuperCruise
24-09-2015, 12:35 PM (This post was last modified: 24-09-2015 12:36 PM by Matt Kowalsky.)
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3D orientation in Galaxy map and SuperCruise
I need some help from experts.

I often find some interesting stars while moving around in SC and would like to find them in the Galaxy Map, but this task proves very difficult, and isn't helped by the fact SC doesn't have a graduated compass and it's difficult to even align with the Galaxy plane.

Any advice on how to do this?

As an example, here are a couple of screenshots
The first is the view from the debug camera in SC

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I'm trying to find the cluster of bright stars which is slightly above the mid-plane, in the centre.

The view from the Galaxy Map shows that it could be the core systems, or maybe the region around Polaris.
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But I can't be sure I've aligned the Galaxy Map correctly, and of course there's no indication of depth.

If anyone's got any tips and tricks on how to do this, I'd like to know...

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24-09-2015, 03:06 PM
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4 point navigation guide.

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24-09-2015, 04:09 PM
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Hmmm, I read that guide a few weeks ago, even printed it, but I'm sorry to say that I had not understood its purpose. Presumably, the guide was written before the Galaxy Map had a search function ?

And now that I look at it again, I still don't see how it applies to my problem since in my case, I have no idea what the coordinates of the target system is.

Am I missing something?

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24-09-2015, 04:16 PM
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NGC 7822.

Once you've seen it, you don't forget it. Smile

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24-09-2015, 04:33 PM
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(24-09-2015 04:09 PM)Matt Kowalsky Wrote:  Hmmm, I read that guide a few weeks ago, even printed it, but I'm sorry to say that I had not understood its purpose. Presumably, the guide was written before the Galaxy Map had a search function ?

And now that I look at it again, I still don't see how it applies to my problem since in my case, I have no idea what the coordinates of the target system is.

Am I missing something?

It works like this:-

You open the galatic map and find a system or location that you want to head towards.

You note its galatic grid co-ordinates.

You use one of them as a ruler guide (that number will stay the same)

You choose a different number of the three as your distance marker (so that you know you are going the correct way)

The third number is not needed.

The guide was made a while back but it still works ok, as you still need to find the direction you are travelling in a 3d space.

The search and waypoint system is used along side of it. (note, you can only plot a system route of 1,000 ly)

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25-09-2015, 08:52 AM (This post was last modified: 25-09-2015 08:53 AM by Matt Kowalsky.)
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@Zenith:Yes, thanks, that seems to be the one. A bit too far off course to basecamp3 but I've bookmarked it for some other time.

@Wishblend: Sorry I still don't get it.
If I know the coordinates of a target system I have no issue using the graduated axis and the WASD keys to move the galaxy map and find said target system.
The problem I have is the opposite: I want to correlate a target seen in Real Space to the Galaxy Map

Or to take this particular example, how to get from the 1st picture I took to finding NGC 7822 on the Map?

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25-09-2015, 10:11 AM
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enter NGC 7822 on he search option in the galactic map.

The only way to go in the direction you are going, ref nebulars, is to open the map and select a nearby star, go back to the main view and if the start is pointing in the right direction, you go that way.

We can not select stars from normal space apart from selecting them from he nav panel.

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25-09-2015, 10:33 AM
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Of course, I understand all this, but I don't know that this cluster is NGC 7822, so I can't search for it in the map.

Quote:The only way to go in the direction you are going, ref nebulars, is to open the map and select a nearby star, go back to the main view and if the start is pointing in the right direction, you go that way.

Yes, this is what I was afraid of, thanks for confirming.

I suppose I need to get better at identifying POI in Real Space so I can start recognizing patterns.
But it realy doesn't help that we can't even orient our ships properly.
Even getting the ship's attitude parallel to the Galactic Plane (and not upside-down!) is difficult, and identifying the 0 on the galactic quadrant (from real space) looks impossible to me

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25-09-2015, 11:05 AM
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If you can see it in space cockpit view.

You can see it on the map.

Just look in all directions till you see it.

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24-06-2016, 09:17 PM
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NGC 7288 was exactly the thing that confused me the first time. I could see the line of bright stars in cockpit when going to the Elephant's Trunk and nothing like it in the Galaxy Map.

What I did was something explained earlier. I found a reference point -- the end of the bright area in equator, zoomed into my current system marker in GM and positioned the equator the same way it was in the cockpit screen. Then almost immediately saw the name of the candidate nebula. It was a bit confusing to see no sign of bright star line, but after picking some star in it and going back to cockpit, I got my confirmation.
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